Former Pro Bowl defensive end Wale Ogunleye and former NFL linebacker Dhani Jones join host Rob Maaddi to chat about a variety of topics. Ogunleye discusses his journey from suffering a knee injury as a senior to going undrafted to earning a big contract after a Pro Bowl season. Jones talks about how his former division, the NFC East, has improved lately. AP Pro Football Writer Barry Wilner checks in on the Steelers, Saints and offers his potential upset this week.

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